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IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:06 pm
by Mephistophilis
11am Sunday 14th March 2010, Buckinghamshire Social Services, Aylesbury

One day since Regina Balfour was rescued.


Simon travels to Aylesbury with DC Burke in his unmarked service vehicle. Burke races down the country roads and it is not long before he has parked up, half on the pavement across a double yellow line, outside an ugly sixties municipal building, Buckinghamshire social services headquarters. They present themselves at reception and are kept waiting for what seems like hours before eventually being summoned into an overly small office where an exuberantly dressed woman greets them, it is Roxanna Goldfarb, Lindsay Peale's old boss.

'I never like these police interviews with children' she says. 'I will be the Appropriate Adult in the absence of Regina's parents. It is my job to make sure you don't traumatise her, or ask her leading questions. So if I say stop you stop, understood?' She shakes her head, 'I don't know if you can appreciate how delicate this all is given our history with the Balfour family. This has to be by the book, you understand me?'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:38 pm
by Silver Priest
Simon makes little small talk with DC Burke, focused as he is on the case. Though he does believe the man to be a bit irresponsible of a driver.

He's read through the same magazine twice before they are called back (Dame Judi Dench really did look good in a bikini, he muses), and his eyes immediately widen when Roxanna introduces herself.

"Ms. Goldfarb, a pleasure to meet you. I was there when Lindsay... expired. The poor woman was rather unstable near the end, but as a psychologist it is and remains my professional opinion that she was not entirely incorrect that the Balfour's pose a threat. She believed that they intended to sacrifice their child in a twisted Binding of Issac style ritual, and my main goal today will be confirming or refuting this; without traumatizing young Regina, of course. Her safety and security is my number one priority. It's why I'm doing this to begin with, after all. We met when we rescued her, so hopefully she'll remember me.
OOC:   Can we say that Simon had the foresight to pick up a small piece of candy for Regina?  

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:34 pm
by Mephistophilis
Roxanna raises an eyebrow at Simon's endorsement of Lindsay, but she doesn't say anything. She leads Simon and Burke through the labyrinthine corridors of the social services building until they come to a brighter and more homely looking area. There's a settee and various toys spread on the floor. Regina is playing with what looks like a Barbie doll while a young blonde woman watches on. It is subtle but there is clearly a video camera positioned on one side of the room.

Simon feels in his pocket, there's the little packet of sweets he picked up from a shop on the way in, Liquorice Allsorts, what child doesn't love liquorice he thinks to himself smugly.

Leading him into the room, Roxanna introduces the blonde woman, who is called Annette. Regina notices them come in and smiles, 'Hello doctor, when can I see my mummy and daddy?'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:31 am
by Silver Priest
Simon smiles when he sees Regina, leaning down to address her.

"Hello again, Regina. We met briefly, do you remember? While you were with the 'mean lady'. I brought you the medicine you needed to stay healthy. And today I brought a gift just for you." He pulls out the licorice, knowing children love sweets that were not good for them.

"We're working hard to get you back to your family, Regina. But I hope you can help us by answering a few questions first; I know you are an incredibly bright girl.

"Have you ever seen a man at your daddy's church called John Allen
?" For good measure, he describes Zero to her based off whatever description they had of the man. "Have you seen him with your parents lately?

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:02 pm
by Mephistophilis
Regina takes the sweet and examines it before putting it in her mouth. She chews it and gives a look not far from disgust but this then switches to one of confusion and then pleasure as she chomps away and then puts her hand out for another one.

At Simon's description of Allen's snake tattoo on his neck she nods in recognition, 'That's not John Allen silly, that's Johnny. I like Johnny, he's nice to me, not like that mean lady. He helps with daddy's church. Where is daddy?'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:37 am
by Silver Priest
"Yes, they are quite good." Simon chuckles, and to his surprise it's not forced. She was a cute child. "Can you tell me the magic word?" He asks when she puts her hand out, before giving her another one when she does so.

"Johnny, oh of course. I'm very glad he's nice to such a sweet girl like you. He's a big help with your daddy's church? Has he been talking to your parents lately about anything that looked important?"

"Oh, your daddy is fine. I know him and your mummy, actually. I just recently met them while looking for you. They were both very worried about you, but both are very happy now that you're okay. You'll be able to see them soon. We just want to make sure that no one else is helping the mean lady and man who took you away; that would make everyone very sad. It's our job to make sure you're safe." He smiles, trying to be encouraging.

"Last time we spoke you were telling me your favorite Bible story, do you remember? The Binding of Isaac. You told it so well I was wondering if you'd be able to tell it again for my friends here-- they all wanted to hear it from you!"

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:21 pm
by Mephistophilis
Regina doesn't seem to need much encouragement. ''The Binding of Isaac' is my favourite story, Daddy tells it to me every day.' She starts talking in an almost sing-song voice, like she's recounting something she has memorised or at least knows very well.

'Isaac was the son of Abraham and Abraham loved him a lot. God promised Isaac would have lots of children but God decided to test Abraham’s faith. He said "Tie Isaac to a rock and kill him with a magic knife." Abraham believed in God and knew that if he killed Isaac he would bring him back from the dead. That's why he wasn't afraid. But it was just a test and a special angel came and stopped Abraham. So God rewarded Abraham for having faith.'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:25 am
by Silver Priest
"What a lovely story, thank you for sharing it with us, Regina. Your father would be so proud of you," Simon says, offering the girl another licorice. While she's focused on it he glances briefly at Roxanna before returning his attention to the young girl. "I'm glad the angel was there to stop Abraham so he didn't need to harm Isaac.But I remember you said that Abraham believed God would bring his son back from the dead if he had to hurt him. He must have had very strong faith, just like your daddy."

"I remember you said something about your father saying the angel would be coming next week to bring about the end of the world. And how we would all be tested. I hope we're able to pass it!" He attempts to laugh, trying to keep the mood as light as possible. "Do you know what we have to do to be safe?"

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:49 pm
by Mephistophilis
Regina pops another Liquorice Allsort in her mouth and chews it for a minute before answering. 'Silly, you know what you have to do to be safe. It's the story of the Passover, the righteous will be saved by God if they do what he says. I think I can remember, now, how does it go...' Her voice takes on an even more singsong quality as she recites ...And they shall take the blood of the lamb and...um...strike it on the posts of the houses, in where they shall eat the flesh that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread, and with bitter herbs...'

Speaking more normally again she says, 'But you already knew that, didn't you?'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:20 pm
by Silver Priest
Simon feels frustration at Regina parroting her father's answer, but tries to conceal it.

"Of course, I had forgotten! We adults can be pretty silly at times, can't we?" He laughs. "But thank you for telling us, Regina! I'll be sure to tell your parents what a good girl you are, always listening and helping to educate us." He pets her softly on the head, pets and children synonymous in his mind.

"We know the end of the world is coming, according to your father. That must be scary, but it's good to know what we have to do to remain safe. Does your daddy think he'll be tested by God when the world ends, like Abraham was?"

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:54 pm
by Mephistophilis
Regina screws up her face, like she's thinking hard. Eventually she says 'Daddy tells me the story of Abraham every day. He says it means we should always do what God says, even if it sounds crazy, because we can't understand God's plan and he will always reward the faithful.'

She hasn't exactly answered the question but has a look of satisfaction on her face, like she's said something profound.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:57 pm
by Mephistophilis
Ms Goldfarb leans over to Simon and whispers, 'I thought we were talking about the kidnapping? All these questions about the Bible, you sound like Lindsay'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:07 am
by Silver Priest
Simon shoots the social worker an annoyed look, but quickly smooths his features over as he whispers a response. "That was my last question along these lines, I promise. I will explain my reasoning afterwards if you like."
He looks back to the young girl. "Thank you for your answers, Regina. You've been a very big help. And you were so very brave. Did the mean lady ever talk to you while she had you? What sort of things did she say, if you can remember?

"Speaking of the mean lady, did she maybe call or speak to anyone while she had you? It's important we know if she had any help, so we can go take them to jail. We're going to do everything we can to ensure that no one like that mean lady or man who took you do anything like that again
."

These questions were largely to make the others happy; Simon has little fear that Regina was in any external danger; Lindsay seemed rather desperate when they had cornered her, and nothing they had found indicated she had any other accomplices. The more difficult part would be convincing the authorities that Balfour himself was dangerous. Simon intended to lay out a methodical case for a man fanatically obsessed with the end times and willing to harm his own daughter if he felt called to do it.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:14 pm
by Mephistophilis
'The mean lady was grumpy and scary. Not like last time she took me away from Mummy and Daddy. She was nice then. But she was mean this time.' She sticks out her tongue in mock disgust.

'She talked about her uncle. I think he was the mean man who grabbed me from the shops. I saw him before. He used to come to church. But he looked different. He was nice then too. Why were they so mean?'

From beside him Simon hears Burke mutter something that sounds like 'For fuck's sake.' He slams his hand down on the table and speaks over Regina menacingly. He snarls 'What about the guns Regina, where are they kept?'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:44 pm
by Silver Priest
"Very smart, Regina! Yes, he--" Simon is cut off by Burke's display of aggression.

"Sir, please step back." He offers, his voice taking on a sterner quality.



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Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:37 pm
by Mephistophilis
Oh dear, that's a fumble


Burke leans over towards Regina, ignoring Simon, reaching his arm out to push him back. 'Where're the guns you little bi...where's the guns?'

Recoiling and edging away from him, Regina gasps, 'You're rude, you're like the mean lady.'

With a sharp intake of breath Roxanna slams her hand on the table, and stands up. She walks between Burke and Regina, 'This interview is over officer!'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:53 am
by Silver Priest
OOC:   Drat. Have to give Regina credit though, she's pretty brave.  
Simon suppresses a curse as that fool Burke ruins everything,as had seemed to be his only contribution to the case so far. He attempts to intervene again, but there's little he can do to the imposing man, and Roxanna brings the meeting to an end before he can.

"That may be for the best," He agrees, having gotten some of what he wanted and needing to appear reasonable. He kneels down, offering a smile to Regina as he gets down to her level. "Thank you so much for all of your help, sweetheart. Enjoy the rest of the treat, you've more then earned it." He offers her the licorice, eying Burke warily.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:38 pm
by Mephistophilis
Regina takes the sweet and before popping it into her mouth she says, 'Thank you, I like you, you're nice to me, even if you're a bit funny.' She points at Burke, 'But I don't like you. You're mean and daddy says mean people will burn in hell forever!'

She takes Roxanna's hand as the social worker leads her to the door. Roxanna shakes her head and mutters, 'What is wrong with you?'

Looks like this interview is over unless there's any last words you want to add. What will you do now?

I'd say for Regina being shouted out is pretty tame compared to the last few days.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:56 pm
by Silver Priest
"Roxanna, could I speak with you privately for a moment?" Simon asks the social worker. While the interview had not gone as well as he had wished, he hopes he can still make a convincing argument based on Regina's statements and some of his own testimony regarding her parents. Perhaps she could still slow the reunification.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:10 pm
by Mephistophilis
Roxanna leaves Regina with Annette and takes Simon and Burke out the room. Burke strides ahead muttering and cursing to himself and Roxanna hangs back to talk to Simon.

'What is it Mr Eagleton?'

Sure, give it a go, I'd say it would be a hard Persuade to get her to try and keep Regina from her parents. Have a go at convincing her and make a roll and I'll set difficulty based on the argument you make.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:40 am
by Silver Priest
Simon moves aside, taking a deep breath. He knows he's not the most persuasive, largely because others are often unable to follow his carefully crafted arguments. But he is also committed to keeping Regina from harm, both to prevent whatever the Balfour's were planning and because he has found himself growing fond of the girl.

"Thank you for letting me speak to you for a moment. Let me first apologize for Burke's behavior; the man has been a troglodyte this entire case, though I would appreciate you not telling him I said that. I speak to you not as someone with the police but a criminal psychologist they call in to consult from time to time. Perhaps you remember the Thorndike affair?" Preparing to inform her of detail of his successes in the past, Simon forces himself to stay focused.

"I was called in just after young Regina was abducted and helped to find her. As I mentioned in the past, I was there when Lindsay was found and ultimately perished. The woman was half mad and severely troubled, there's no two ways about it, but she had a serious fear of the Balfour's and their church; fear I do not believe to be entirely unwarranted. I'm unable to tell you everything given this is a current police investigation, but as Regina said her father believes the world will end next week with a repeat of the culling of firstborn,a message he wrote in his church's Bible attest to this. I strongly suspect he speaks to Regina about the need to have faith and tells her the story of Issac so much because he intends to sacrifice her.When we first rescued her and she told us the chief lesson of The Binding of Issac was to always have faith and that her father told her God would never have let Issac come to harm, even bringing him back from the dead so long as Abraham had faith. That part in particular concerns me.

"I'm aware how crazy this sounds, but Reverend Balfour already believes that the end of the world is upon us-- is it really a stretch from that belief to believing that God is compelling him to harm his child in some sick display of faith? I firmly believe he believes everything he tells Regina. I also firmly believe that he is dangerous as a result.

"I don't know Lindsay's record here, but I believe by all accounts she was a stellar employee who cared about her job and helping children. her actions were beyond the pail, but I think she was legitimately afraid for Regina and of what the Balfour's intended to do to her. I can also speak to other concerns; John Balfour himself attempted to strangle me when I asked him a question, and we found a firearm in the church last night that has been linked to Johnny Zero, who Regina has attested is a close friend of her father's. Police are currently searching for him. The Balfour's themselves claim ignorance, but that's hard for me to believe given their relationship.

"I know your position is delicate, and I'm not asking you to keep Regina away from her family forever on all this. I know that's not feasible. But Balfour believes the world will end next Tuesday. I implore you in the strongest terms to do whatever you can to keep her out of his custody at least until after that date. Her life may very well depend on it."

OOC:   Sorry for the length, Simon just would not shut up!  


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Please let me know if I have gained any negative or positive modifiers based off the speech. I will spend whatever luck is needed to make it a success.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:49 pm
by Mephistophilis
Roxanna frowns, 'Listen, I can see there's some weird stuff going on here, the Balfours are more than just religious, they're like a cult, but they're also influential, they've got sympathy with Regina's kidnapping, and media coverage, they've got their lawyers involved too. I can't make any promises, all I can say is I'll try and keep her away from her parents as long as possible. That's the best I can do.' Then she adds, 'And try and keep plods like Burke out of things, they'll just make it all worse.'

Good speech, spend the Luck for a regular success

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:48 am
by Silver Priest
At Roxanna's answer, Simon lets out a huge breath of relief. He feels as though finally someone other then his team is taking the matter seriously.

"Thank you Ms. Goldfarb," he tells her. "You may just be saving Regina's life. I don't know exactly how deep this all goes, but I've seen enough to believe her family are very dangerous. I'm going to do everything in my power to get to the bottom of this.

"As for Burke, rest assured I'll be filing a complaint as soon as we get back to the office. I suggest you do so as well
." He smirks.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:36 pm
by Mephistophilis
What would you like to do now? It is early afternoon.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:37 am
by Silver Priest
OOC:   Sorry, missed this.  
Simon prepares to head back to the station, but pulls out his phone to give Jocelyn a call and report in.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:32 pm
by Mephistophilis
Simon calls up Jocelyn. She answers immediately, 'Hi, Simon. We've found a few leads, but let's hear what you've got first.'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:02 am
by Silver Priest
"I just conducted another interview with Regina. It went well, up until Burke tried to interrogate her about where the guns were being kept. Bit of a jackass, that one. Regardless, I spoke at length with Ms. Goldfarb about the danger I believe the Balfour's pose tot heir daughter, and she seemed receptive. She said she'd do everything she can to keep her away from them; she can't make any promises, but hopefully the delay will be long enough to ensure they can't get her back before Tuesday."

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:11 pm
by Mephistophilis
'Best to make sure it's not before Wednesday, considering what's planned for Tuesday night. I found a mobile belonging to Johnny hidden in the toilet tank, with the SIM card stored separately. Seems he likes that as a hiding place. We've run the numbers we found on it, and the names. In addition to John and Sarah Balfour, and Zac, who we know better by another name, he has numbers for unidentified people named David, Phil, and Winston. But there are some the police were able to identify. There's his girlfriend from the church, Rachel Johnson, who has an address in Wycombe and no record. We plan to head there next. There's also James Williams in Wycombe. All he's got is a caution for speeding. But there's also Steve Brown in London, who has convictions for drug possession and dealing about ten years ago. One of his former criminal associates, no doubt. There's also a Louise Hayman in London, no record.'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:51 am
by Silver Priest
"I'd say we're not exactly dealing with criminal masterminds, but I no longer feel entirely comfortable making that assumption. Johnny is unlikely to be one, however. Chances are he's doing precisely what Balfour's told him to. Good work on tracking down all these leads; do you want me to join you at Ms. Johnson's home, or would you like me to pursue another of our suspects?"

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:42 pm
by Mephistophilis
'I think we should stick together. We can't be sure where we might find Johnny. Let's meet at Rachel's house. Can you ask Regina if any of the names are familiar to her? I'm sure she knows about her parents and Zac, but let's see if she knows about the others.'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:11 am
by Silver Priest
Simon hesitates. "That makes sense, I'll be there as soon as I can. As for Regina, I'm not sure it's worth it to ask her any further questions-- I don't want to press too hard and anger Ms. Goldfarb. She's in our corner presently and suspects something is amiss with the Balfour's, but I don't believe she particularly wants me to put Regina through another round of questions, and I would hate to jeopardize the relationship I've builded with her."

Not to mention I'm fresh out of licorice.


"If you really think it's necessary though, I'll give it a try."

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:17 pm
by Mephistophilis
'I'll leave it to your judgment,' says Jocelyn. 'You know the situation better than I do.'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:58 am
by Silver Priest
"I think it's better not to push it then." Simon responds. "She knew who Mr. Zero was, but only as 'Johnny' and that he was a friend of her father's. I'm guessing that if the other names were recognized she would have little to add beyond that they go to her church, which already strikes me as a safe assumption."

"If there's nothing else, I'll head over to meet with you as soon as I can."

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:42 pm
by Mephistophilis
'Ok, let’s not push her any further,' replies Kris. He relays Rachel's address to Simon.

'We’ll meet you there,' he says. 'See if you can’t leave that idiot, Burke, behind…'

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:37 am
by Silver Priest
Simon hangs up and tells Burke the address. "You should probably head back tot he station and fill DI Malone in on what has transpired." He tells the man. "He likely wants to be kept in the loop."

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:06 pm
by Mephistophilis
Burke grunts, his expression shows he's not too fond of Simon either. 'You want a lift back to Wycombe or will I leave you here to make your own way?' He delivers that with a sneer.

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:46 am
by Silver Priest
"A lift would be appreciated" Says Simon, his tone carefully neutral. "My car is there."

Re: IC - 22 - Interrogating Children - Simon

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:35 pm
by Mephistophilis
Moving here.